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rotten interior ....heeeeeeeelp

help needed , the rot had set in the sleeper roof space so time to remove and repair , so ok here goes .
once started one rotten bit led to another and so on until i was back to very thin ali headboard at the front of the van .
my question is this where would i get hold of the rubber seal ( gasket )sorry not the best pic , i have tried seals direct but couldn't get a match on thier website , meanbay a bit pricey



does anyone know what this rubber is called ?

this folds around the lip of the ali front wall ( outside ) to meet the sloping fibre glass roof where the top two windows are fitted ?????



on the inside these two parts are held in place with a wooden frame so when screwed they pull together , outside is sealant then this rubber seal then somemore sealant then aluminium angle screwed in .

also does anyone know of a alternative to using polystyrene sheets for insulation as when i removed the panel the polystyrene was absolutly soaking wet so a good water resistant insulator would be good .

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any good advice would very helpful , thanks richard

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Sat 26 Mar 2011 @ 19:16 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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For seals, try woolies trim:
http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk
both of which offer a pretty good service.
It might be a case of buying two profiles and gluing them together.

Regarding your insulation, Im in a similar position and have gone for foiul backed camping mats, secured with contact adhesive:
easy to cut to size, closed cell, and if they are good enough to sleep on a concrete floor when its -5 (dont ask), they do the trick for me!
try:
370480321580
havent seen cheaper.

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Sat 26 Mar 2011 @ 21:08 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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I would use a non setting mastic, the problem is the body will always flex so bonds will be broken and any rubber seals must be soft so to take up any gaps thet develop

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Sun 27 Mar 2011 @ 08:40 Edit this messageQuote this messagePMQuote this message
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thanks to mikeyboy and winchman respectively , good bits of advice , went for ali mats on a roll , they will do perfectly for the insulator , winchman went for rv61 sealant/bonding agent ( now used in the manufacture of modern day motorhomes ) after hours of trawling around sealant sites .
i have all my new timber and hopefully if the weekend is fair i shall start to re-new my overcab sleeper ready for the summer.

fingers crossed .cheers guys
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Glad to help! My second lot of camping mats arrived today- but ive ordered high temp carpet spray adhesive to make installation easier and to withstand sunny days.

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have you heard of ct1 bonding and sealer , its on meanbay and theres a video about it too .
looks as if would do almost anything .
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Nope, but this is what i got: 180632044434
Item specifics

which i think would be easier for sheet materials but the CT1 might be good for seals.
Sikaflex is another popular option

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Hi Rich, I'm just doing similar repairs on our new camper and wondered if you or someboby else on the forum has an answer to the following.

Where the floor/bed area meets the front ally panel, how was it originally joined? Was the strip of 2X1 which is screwed to the edge of the floor bonded to the ally panel it meets as there isn't any sign of fixing holes.
This is stopping me moving ahead with repairs.

Thanks
Dave
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hi dave , the head board is actually a frame enclosing the poly insulation board , this is glued onto the ally from the inside and then from the outside (top & btm) there are ally fixing rails that run around the the edges of the camper , if you lift out the screw coverings there you will find the screws that are directly screwed into the frame through the rubber gasket and the fibre glass roof .
when lifting the ally rails be careful as they are not the strongest and crease quite easily , actually there are a couple more screws under all the horrid mastic stuff going through the fibre glass body into the frame as well .
this is the same for both top and bottom so when released the ally headboard will just pop out leaving the front of the van open .
when digging out the old wood be careful not to pop through the ally as it opens like a tin can if too much pressure is used .
then make a new frame , insulate with aluminium camping mats , i am using a waterproof flexible glue called rv61 it smells a bit but soon goes . when the frame is in i have sealed it all with ct1 sealer&bonder its great can get on ebay . run mastic tape on the outside to cover all joints , apply rubber gasket then ally fixing rail , then screw covering and bobs your uncle .
have put more pics on so hope this helps dave , if you need ant more help just ask , good luck .

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heres some pics of where we are at with the van , looking good all sealed up now just needs a few touches here and there , hopefully all watertight again .

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hi rich,

we're undergoing a similar task at present on ours... what solution did you use for the rubber gasket under the alu joining strip on the outside ? (there's a piccie of it in the very first post!)

Did you replace it ?... reuse the existing one? or just ditch it in favour of mastic strip under the alu ?

(on the one edge we've done so far we used mastic over the join and a new (not direct replacement) rubber seal mainly for aesthetic purposes)
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hi ed , hmm the rubber gasket was really hard to source so in the end i put it in the freezer for a couple of days so the old mastic hardened then with a really sharp craft knife tediuosly trimmed all the mastic off and re-used it .
i got some mastic tape to cover over the join and filled any cracks holes etc with a excellent mastic called ct1 which you can get off ebay for £7.99 , then replaced the rubber gasket and screwed the ali strips into the new timber .(one tip dont force the screws as the fibre glass roof may rip apart)
it all went really well and now is dry as bone again .
if you have any more questions please don't hesitate to ask .
good luck rich
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p.s did you see the tip from mikeyboy about using ali camping mats for insulation , they worked a treat and really cheap too .
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cheers for that.... at the risk of thread hijacking our problem areas are:
- rear left corner, leaky, wood rotted & side bowed a little.
- front L/R corners, eveidenec of some leakage inside
- mid right hand join between fibre glass roof & main roof + edge join

we've done the rear left corner round along the top edge, with some new wood to replace the rotten & try to pull the bowed section true (limited success).
so next we're working all the way round the front & back to the opposite rear corner.

we're using a mastic tape strip under the alu strip too so it's reassuring to know this solution has proven effective for you.
i'm hoping the insulation at the front is ok as so far only the corners appear to be at fault, but we shall see (assuming the rain stops for long enough this weekend )

PS we also have some nice new silver cover strip to go over the crews in the alu channel which was 45 p/metre.
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For the cost of it, Id take all old insulation out, to double check youve found all the rot- I managed to find some!

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Mikeyboy wrote:
For the cost of it, Id take all old insulation out, to double check youve found all the rot- I managed to find some!


i guess at least for the front section that's relatively easily accessed from inside!... the section i've just done is behind the water heater & cupboards.
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hi ed ,
yes i would have to agree with mikeyboy it was easier to strip all the old insulation out rather than patching it everywhere , the front panel has an inch of old polystyrene insulation sandwiched between two rather old rotten sheets of plywood and when i removed it it had so much water in it i could literally wring it out also it was stuck hard to the ali front panel which with a lot of care eventually came away (they dont make adhesive like they used to lol).
in the 2 corners on the inside there are two shaped pieces of wood if careful you can prise these out and reuse or get some more cut to shape or make sure you use double the amount of sealer , this was the trickiest part for me but it can be done .
when your ready to apply the new sheets i used a glue called rv61 its polyurethane based so does smell when first applied but soon goes , its a contact adhesive so do both the wood and the ali leave for 5 mins and then position , tricky you have to have someone on the outside and someone on the inside , one pushing and one pressing , we did get a bit of a warp but that soon came out as we worked around left to right , easier to take the warp out on the corners than trying to chase this way then that way .

like i say if you need anymore help just ask .
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Moved from 'CF questions'.

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After reading this thread, decided to have a go at my rot.

Left side of the sleeping area above cab.
Wood with the carpet on, obliterated. Re done that.
Glass had been stuck on at least twice before. And by
Mr S Wonder both times.
So, ignorant of the bird on the news telling me earlier that storm was a brewing,i took it all out. And it rained. Obviously.
Managed to squirt enough silicone around the glass to hopefully
hold it in for the night.
But, and this is why i'm posting,between the thin wood attached to
the carpet,and the fibreglass, there wasn't any insulation? Any
ideas?

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probably an earlier leak, judging by the evidence offered!

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